We knew from what Herb said over the phone that it was murder.

It was only a year ago Herb had said that.

"You'd better leave the house for a while," Herb said.

"I want to discuss one matter with you," Herb said.

"We're not the only ones who can follow a blood trail," Herb said.

"You got to stick out your tongue far enough so he can see it move," says Herb.

"She's going to go a long way," Herb said, "if she gets any kind of a break at all."

These things that looked, as Herb had said, like something you would want to step on.

"This little problem, which so many women seem to think is funny, has all but ruined my life," said Herb.

Herb says it's just to spite him that she won't get married again.