Two weeks or so after that, an American military investigator came to visit him.
"I think we said it a lot," he told military investigators.
Over the years some family members and military investigators have even wondered whether he was working as a spy.
"It's important for them to know I'm not sitting in a plane somewhere," he later told military investigators.
One ready resource might be former police officers and retired military investigators.
He was captured by military investigators several times, but always managed to escape.
He also said the man's account was consistent with those verified by a military investigator.
The agents, experienced military and police investigators from several nations, have no power to make arrests.
One was at a station where United States military investigators work, but they had not yet arrived.
"I did not see a reason to kill the men at that time," Kugler later told military investigators.