"I was the only candidate who could beat Orrin Hatch," he said.

"Orrin Hatch is 40 miles deep and 10 inches wide."

No matter how many times Orrin Hatch wants to keep putting out the big lie, it's just not true.

The longest-serving senator is Orrin Hatch, in office since 1977.

Orrin Hatch won barely 1 percent and dropped out, endorsing Bush.

The absence of Orrin Hatch praying in the nation's schools.

He ran against Orrin Hatch for the Senate in 1982.

"I think the Orrin Hatch of 1977 might have come to a different conclusion about many of these issues," he said.

"In the beginning people were stereotyping me without looking at the real Orrin Hatch," he said.

Orrin Hatch took a dig at him on the issue anyhow.