They just tore out pictures of things they liked, Rev Run says, gave them to the architect or contractor, and told them to do it.

"In Russell's house, this would be the balcony of his movie theater," Rev Run says.

Whatever it is, Rev Run is disagreeing.

Everybody can't love everything you do in life, Rev Run tells his brother, you're never going to get 100 percent approval.

This line of thinking, Rev Run tells his brother, is going to make him old.

Rev Run hangs up.

His brother loved most of the show, Rev Run says, but talked about all the things that could be fixed.

"I could fix it the same way, but I don't want to live my life like he does," Rev Run says.

Rev Run makes a cameo appearance at the end of the music video.

Mr. Simmons, who says he has gone through a religious awakening, is now an ordained minister known as Rev Run.