Well not the very small firm yet, I would say.
"At a small firm that is growing, it really takes a lot of time and energy."
In the first six months of this year nearly 30,000 small firms went to the wall - a third up on 1991.
His was a small firm, but a man working in research and development needs strange stuff sometimes.
And many more smaller firms around the nation have gone under.
What are the advantages of using a large over a small firm?
"There are so many small firms all working on the same thing," he said.
That, she said, would be a far greater threat to small firms.
A lot of smaller firms don't want to be involved in all that.
This may be a city (in the case of small firms), state or country.