And a few veterans of the struggle say they see some hope.

Many veterans say they are more comfortable with their own kind.

Says the older veteran, "America used to be a great country."

Another young veteran says he was trained for nothing at all.

"When we were over there, it was important to know that someone had our back," one veteran says.

Some political veterans said they could not remember more uncertainty.

The 20-year veteran of the tower said he never thought about it.

Veterans say a couple on a date is often a happy sight, for example.

Veterans say they are seeing a new interest in camping among families.

Still, veterans of the front row say the fashion was getting lost.