But the conversation, she added, had never been like this: it was about condoms.

The subject of greatest controversy among board members was what to say about condoms.

"How can a parochial school give a health class and talk about condoms or abortion?"

Who'd want to go back to the days when you couldn't even talk about condoms?

"The more we can talk about condoms, the better off we're going to be in our attempt to save lives," she said.

How much do you know about condoms and sexual health?

The issue of what to say about condoms proved tricky.

We are no longer just talking about condoms and diaphragms.

They all knew about condoms, but none of them wanted to mess with the mood.