To make such a statement about pop or Broadway singers would be laughably obvious.

"Let's not talk about pop," he said.

This isn't even pop about pop, this is fop about pop.

I said, what about pop with a lot of guitars?

Blondie was always self-conscious about pop, sharing with its fans the awareness that songs are artificial constructions.

How was I going to write about pop for a magazine that usually crossed the street when confronted with the bumptious music of the great unwashed?

By the 1950's, opera singers were rarely heard in the new-rock-and-roll, and the operatic world had grown defensive and snobbish about pop.

An award that acknowledges whatever dominated the year's conversation and converted people who don't care much about pop.

And much of 'Back In Denim' supersedes the sermon because it actually is great pop about pop.