But, he added, "In the 60 days we have the obligation to come to grips with budget reform."

He knows he is not going to get everything he's asking for on budget reform.

The biggest part of our budget reform, however, is payroll reduction.

All the prominent convention supporters agree on the need for some kind of budget reform.

Let me remind you, in the first two years, we passed a major budget reform which brought back the economy.

But they cannot agree on other budget reforms and have made no progress in moving the date.

A conference committee this year made an effort to put together something they can call budget reform.

By itself, the issue of budget reform could be difficult.

A rare conference committee on budget reform, now in its third week, has so far offered little encouragement.

And if they wanted real budget reform, they didn't get that, either.