But if he has similar problems, then scouts will begin to see Bradley as just another big, hard thrower who lacks command.

A hard thrower, he arguably had his best season in 1965 with a record of 9-3, 21 saves and finishing 40 games.

They begin as hard throwers, relative to those they play against in high school and maybe college.

Neither is an especially hard thrower, and both have had to learn a changeup.

And there were other hard throwers along the way.

"You have to show them something else," said Farnsworth, the hardest thrower on the staff.

Peraza was a hard thrower with a fastball in the 94-95 range.

The 6-foot-10 Johnson, in his early years, was a hard thrower who had control problems.

But against any hard thrower, you have to look for location more than anything else.

Most managers would like two hard throwers, and Johnson has five.