I'd given him his first job, right out of college, and he'd rapidly moved into management.
At the end of his playing career, Graham moved into management.
Maybe I should have tried to move up into management and change it from the top, but that wasn't me.
In the end all hope of change was projected into higher management.
"Later, when I went into management, my job was to find the guys sleeping and give them a talk."
Only two players from the 1919 season stayed, and the team went into new management.
And now Butcher is set to be the first big name to move into management.
"Women in big jobs were a decade older than the men, because it took us so long to get into management," she said.
"A lot of people do this job a few years, then go into management," Smith says.
He retired as a player in 1998 and moved into management.