Subsequently a grand jury probe was held to determine whether Todd's death was a murder.
He is currently the target of a grand jury probe for alledged corruption.
In any other city, there would have been grand jury probes, governor's investigations, mayor's task forces looking into the problem.
"I'm trying to say that the jury probe may be moving beyond its initial scope, onto more dangerous ground," I tell him.
"Besides, his part in the grand jury probe is over."
"But I was the only judge overseeing a grand jury probe of the Police Association."
Under these circumstances it is not likely that elected officials will open another grand jury probe into the affairs of his association.
"For your information," she says, "they didn't kill the entire grand jury probe."
Paterno was a key witness in the grand jury probe.
She and her family, however, refused to cooperate with state investigators during a seven-month grand jury probe.