"They have a combination of great perimeter play and great low-post presence," Donovan said.

The 6-11, 240-pound sophomore played in 32 games last season and established himself as a low-post presence.

When the Big Fella is not playing, we have to have some low-post presence.

Some point to their lack of a low-post presence who can demand double teams, score and draw fouls.

"We don't have a low-post presence that most teams have," he said.

"The whole thing in this league is, when you have a low-post presence, you can create double-teams to open up outside shots," Brown said.

He has given them a low-post presence they needed and added even more versatility to a roster built around that hallmark.

The undersize Knicks, who scored only 10 points in the paint and were outrebounded by 50-33, could have used a low-post presence.

But the Knicks will have to wait longer for the low-post presence of McDyess.

"It felt good to have a low-post presence myself down there."