A few members of the organization have come and gone over the years.
He was a member of the local military organization from 1934 to 1938.
But so far, he said, business is up about 50 percent among the members of his organization.
"But perhaps you can tell me if he is a member of your organization."
It had been an early member of the 45-year-old organization but was asked to leave during the cold war in 1954.
Did they perhaps want to separate them as members of the same organization?
His mother had been an early member of the organization and supported their activities.
The fee for those who are not members of the organization is $35.
She and her staff also interviewed other members of the organization.
But as members of the organization have seen, Ward once put in more hours after practice than he does now.