"In Iraq there is a sectarian war," he told me.
The Americans, ever ready to help fight the insurgents, won't step into the middle of a sectarian war.
"I think the sectarian war is coming this way," he added.
Since late last year, prices have been moving up again, as sectarian war has spread.
Second of all, they really don't want the sectarian war.
And this time the sectarian war would spread across a region - Iraq x ten.
Nobody wants to say it, but there is a sectarian war.
Iraq is in a state of sectarian civil war.
Millions have been displaced or set against one another in sectarian wars.
The two are expected to talk about the widening sectarian war in Iraq and to try to reach agreement on ways to stop it.