To another friend, he talked about men being hired to kill him.

The other girls never seemed to tire of talking about young men.

"You never know when we're talking about men," she said.

"Well, I saw no point to talking to you about other men in my life."

That, perhaps, we're not talking about men who can pick up a phone as you said before and put those wheels in motion?

Listen to the way he talks about men who can sell.

We are talking about women and men, often accompanied by children, who have taken the painful decision to leave their countries.

Would this also be the case if we were talking about men?

Why should he talk about other men who had come to know them?