But the talks suggest that they are not ready to impose changes on themselves necessary for real progress and agreement.
Iverson's talk and demeanor suggested that both records would be broken.
Last-minute talks last night suggested only €150 billion would be raised, but details are unlikely to be confirmed until the new year.
Some talk of a museum; others suggest a conference center.
"Second, with huge budget deficits lurking around the corner, the talk of tax cuts suggests the burden on the market would be even greater."
But all this talk about global overcapacity suggests that automakers see themselves as all making the very same thing.
Ministers said the lengthy talks, which are seen as crucial to stimulating the global economy, suggested an agreement was possible.
All this talk of gentle movement and minimal stress, however, should not suggest that the step routine is a casual experience.
Harbury's loose talk suggested he had few facts.